I was shoveling my walk with my 2 friends when two fireballs flew acroos the sky in a northern direction we all saw it and wondered if it was a UFO because it went kind of slow.
3 teardrop shaped crafts hovered in the sky changing color
There were 3 teardrop shaped crafts hovering in the sky. I saw them when I was doing some star gazing from inside of my house. I was looking out the window when I saw the three ships hovering for 3-5 minutes changing color.
Occurred : 2/21/2002 ( UUFOH)
Reported : 02/21/2002 8:00 PM by Dave Rosenfeld - UUFOH
Location : Salt Lake City, UT - Red Butte Gardens
Shape : unknown/sphere?/ changing
A silvery object showed up while out doing a skywatch today. at around 2:13pm for four minutes and then again at 2:19pm to 2:33pm. going east really slowly till it went over the mountain towards Emigration Canyon. I was using my 500mm lens at f~ 5.6, got about 10-12 pictures a couple with the object by the moon. Shiny silvery object, that change shape constantly, estimated size: 20 ft diameter, no fantastic moves or anything, just slow hover-like movement. I was quite surprised! I didn't expect anything to show up, but I'm glad I went and watched. Reported to Peter Davenport's site - NUFORC, and sent photos on 5/25/2002,aslo reported to SLC MUFON, ufo info.com, Majorstars Filers Files, Clyde Lewis GROUND ZERO
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At about 3 PM I looked across the bay toward the east mountains near Layton. Right above the mountain tops, we saw a shiny silver object that was flying very slowly with no noise. We looked at it, trying to figure out if it was an aircraft or not. It disappeared before I could grab my camera.I said to Marjorie, "I want that object to re-appear so that I can get a picture of it."We pulled off the road and waited about 5 minutes. Suddenly, another craft appeared in approximately the same location. I grabbed my Nikon digital camera and snapped 4 shots before the object disappeared again.When we got home, I downloaded the photos into Photoshop and enlarged the images. The image on the screen was clearly not an aircraft! It had no tail, no wings, and the top appeared to be slightly concave.We were so excited, as this was our first daytime sighting,
plus we got some photos.
update: The object appeared to move up and down slowly, not in straight and level flight like an aircraft. It made no sound like a jetliner does. It was very shiny, like it was made out of stainless steel, and it reflected the sunlight quite brilliantly.
Update:I can tell you this: they were definitely not infront of the mountain. At that extreme distance, it is really hard to gauge distances, but it looked to me like the objects were right over or slightly behind the peaks.This was exciting for me as it was my first DAYTIME sighting, and my first sighting where I took photos.
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UFO Antelope Island, UT
03/09/2002
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Occurred : 4/13/2002 11:00 am - Duration 1/2 hour
Reported : 4/15/2002 by Chris Rock - Video Taken
Location : Magna, UT
Shape : Diamond and Spheres
I was on my way to my mothers house Saturday at around 11:00 am. when I seen 4 small girls setting on there from porch looking up. When I got to my mothers house I looked in the area where the girls was looking and Iseen what looked like 2 tall sharp diamond shapes objects hanging in the sky. My mother does not have a camera with zoom so I drove back to my house and got my camcorder. I couldn't see the objects from my house so I drove back to my mothers house where the objects was still hanging in the sky. There was more then 2 objects and the objects was spherical in shape total of 4. On the tape I say there is 3 but after watching the tape we seen the others. I video taped them until they left. I did not get them on tape as they were leaving.
The 2 that are together moved off to the east. I have reported this sighting to: Peter Davenport's site. VIEW REPORT
When i started taping the objects I was in my parents back yard and each time I would get theobject into focus my mothers dog would jump on me.These first pictures are time stamped 11:14 am. the last time stamp on the tape with an object is 11:25 am.The objects didn't move off until 11:30 am.(not on tape)
I want to show that the objects can not be balloons and have been in the same area for this amount of time.
Looking west towards the tower on the mountain, a bright white light was seen coming towards the city ,small at first getting bigger as it came closer, stopped between witness and mountain, then followed by a duplicate object which stopped close to first, then a third object joined the the other two coming in same as the first two, forming a "half circle" or dome formation, then each object moved off one at a time disapearing in the distance, then returning in the same way and making the formation again, just slightly to the north. this happened three times, each time making the dome formation equally spaced and timed as if repeated. shape of objects were seen during formation which was at its closest, "jellybean" or Tic Tac shape. no sound was heard, no flashing lights, Objects did come through the cloud cover that was present. Several witnesses watched in awe and exitement from two different locations and called UUFOH during the sighting. Decribed the sighting as it was happening and gave their report over the phone. They said it was an amazing sight. The Utah UFO Hunters is currently doing follow-up investigations on this event. Reported to NUFORC on 5/25/2002
ON I80 HEADED EASTBOUND--SALT FLATS AREA-- BEAMS OF LIGHT OR ENERGY COMING FROM A STATIONARY BRILLIANT STAR-LIKE SHAPE 200 FEET ABOVE
IT WAS DURING THE SUNRISE BETWEEN 6:00 AM. AND 7:00 A.M. EASTBOUND I 80 JUST OUT OF WENDOVER, NEVADA HEADING TOWARDS SALT LAKE CITY. 15 MINUTES OUT OF WENDOVER IN THE SALT FLATS AREA, MY GIRLFRIEND AND I SAW WHAT APPEARED TO BE A WHITE LINE OR SPHERE IN THE SKY. THE FURTHER EAST WE KEPT DRIVING THE CLOSER WE SEEMED TO GET TO THE OBJECT AND REALIZED IT HADN'T MOVED. THE LIGHT WAS GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER AND KEPT CHANGING SHAPES UNTIL WE WERE ONLY A FEW MILES A WAY FROM IT. AS WE GOT CLOSER THE LIGHT APPEARED TO BE TWO HUGE BEAMS OF LIGHT OR ENERGY--WIDE AND THICK AT THE TOP, THINNING AND FADING TOWARDS THE BOTTOM. WE DIDN'T REALIZE IT UNTIL WE WERE VERY CLOSE BUT THE LIGHTS OR ENERGY BEAMS SEEMED TO BE COMING FROM A SOURCE. AT THE TOP OF THE LIGHTS OR ENERGY BEAMS WAS WHAT APPEARED TO BE A BRILLIANT TWINKLE LIKE A STAR. THE OBJECT (OR LIGHTS) (EXCEPT FOR CHANGING SHAPE) NEVER MOVED ONCE FROM WHAT WE COULD TELL AND WE HAD STARTED WATCHING THE LIGHTS IN THE SKY FROM ABOUT A HALF AN HOUR AWAY. WE ENDED UP PASSING IT. IT APPEARED TO ONLY BE A FEW HUNDRED FEET TO THE NORTH OF THE FREEWAY AND ONLY A COUPLE OF HUNDRED FEET ABOVE THE FREEWAY. IT WAS APPROXIMATELY 2 MILES WEST OF THE KNOLLS EXIT
Occurred : 0/00/02 spring of 2002 Time of Sighting: abt. 10:00 pm
Reported : 8/04/04
Location of sighting: Manti, Utah south east over mountains of Manti
Shape : Sphere
Description of object /s : It was hard to describe, a very bright light object over the east mountains of Manti. It shot out of nowhere, circled and propelled towards the west. It almost seemed to sense 3 of us were watching from the porch of a home up on the hill, and then exited in a large hurry. The man who's home we were at, stated that he saw them frequently sitting up on the hill.
Also, I remember a couple of years ago, there was an extremely bright orange light that was football shaped, that hovered over a large area of the southeast mountains here in Manti and lasted for several minutes. Many people saw it, and someone commented from down south in Aurora, that they thought the "world was coming to an end". Have also seen a lesser orange colored football shaped formation of light over the west mountains of Manti about 6 years ago. When watching it for several minutes, my husband and I, there were 2 lightening like zaps that came from beneath the orange light and then dissappeared quickly. This also was viewed by 2 other people we talked too. Susan Greene
Sighting Event Details: The first siting I talked about earlier, just sitting on a porch of friends home up in hills. The other t2o incidences were from my front porch ralatively late at night.
Phenomenon visible for how long? Just a few seconds
Height / Altitude of Object: ?????
Distance of Object from your Position: :??? high in the sky
Estimated Size of Object: fairly large
Speed of object: 250 -500 mph
Hear Sound? NO Object solid? YES
Noticed Object/s: Rotate - Object was seen emitting a light or beam towards the ground or other object
Object number Formation Pattern was observed
Seen in vicinity of: None of the Above
Last Seen Direction of Object: west
Moving in front or behind: None
# of Witness's:3 Seen in vehicle? NO Noticed: Power Failure
Alone when sighting occurred?YES
Weather: Clear/Calm
Suffered Decription of effects:Have had severe humming in ears every since, off and on. Dr.s could find nothing, no tinnitus or anything explainable.
Seen before? Description of past experience: yes other
Organization -Reported to:
Reported by: Susan Noorlander Greene - Age:55 -Via UUFOH Online UFO Report Form
Also I have information that I will only give in person
I was looking up at the North mountains on my way to school, the sun wasn't up all the way, and I looked up above the top of the mountain, and saw a Diamond shaped light, that looked like a star.
It slowly started moving to the East for a couple hundred feet, then Disappeared. then at a Completely different Point in the sky, it Reappeared and moved to the east once again. then disappeared. Then Reappeared for less than 1 second and Shot downward and made a streak of light in the sky. then vanished behind the mountain.
On Feb. 24th, 2002 a report from the Utah Ufo Investigations Team in St.George, Utah that two French hikers spotted a Triangle hovering and flying around them and appeared to be looking for a place to land, it did this for 5 minutes and then took of in the sky. There were no eyewitnesses because of the location where these hikers were on a cliff side by them selfs hiking. This is still under investigations by the Utah Ufo Investigations Team
June 29,2002 At 12:00 am. At midnight a cluster of objects came shooting over from the West to the East. 1 hour and 24 minutes later a second set "or the same" shot over from the West to the East. I saw several single objects from the Magna area. Totaling 4 in all.
At 2:46 am. One was floating from the Southwest to the Northeast.
2:48 am. one Moving to the South flashed 10 times sporadically as it moved to the South and vanished in the sky.
2:55 am. Moving South southeast
At 3:05 am. After a shooting star caming from the east to the west a small object was seen at the end of the shooting star streak. The object was moving Slowly from the North to the South. Not sure if it is one of the same or a quinky dink.
All caught on night vision video except the shooting star streak
Location : West side of Grantsville, UT County: Tooele
Shape : Upside down T - Solid
Direction of Object: West - Hover
Visible for?: approx 15 to 20 seconds - No sound.
Event /Object Details: I was sitting on my deck observing the clouds and sunset. I was sitting no longer than five minutes before it appeared. It just appeared, there was no movement before, nor after. It looked like the top half of a cross. It appeared to be a light of that shape, though solid, and slightly positioned at an angle. There was no color to it, only white like a light. I decided it must be a reflection of the sun off the body and wings of an airplane, and the slow dimming and reappearing, almost like a pulse, was due to the light cloud cover. I had to abandon that theory after about 15 seconds though, because it didn't move during that time, as a plane or helicopter would, and the pulse appeared to be evenly timed.
For the height and distance, it appeared larger than you would expect a small plane to be.
Never have seen this type of object before. I have seen other quesionable objects during darker skys. My sister claims to have witnessed a UFO from my deck approximately five years ago, during a family barbacue. I was in the house at the time. I remember her excitment, but I would need to contact her to get her discription because I can't remember. My grandfather had numerous experiences with UFOs while living in the desert and working as a miner.
Note: Area is near a Military Airfield
Reported by : Andrea V. Dunyon - ViaUUFOH Online Report Form
Details: The object was at the St George D moutain in St George and I was told that a group of people were there and they came to me becuse they new I was in the UUFOH and they told me that at
approximately 8:00 pm on September 19th 2002 they had saw a sphere in the sky and so I went to the area where they had saw it and when I got there .there was nothing at first and all of a sudden there it was, right above the letter D on the mountain and I couldn't belive my eyes because it was just 200 to about 250 ft staight up and the object was a sphere looking shape with one light and I watched it for about 4 min and then it went away. I had asked the people that had seen it if they had taken any drugs or had bieng drinking before we went out there and they said no. then when we had got to the spot of the activity I had asked them if we see somethig , would they be willing to do a report and they said because of the fact that they were scared to admit to what they had saw and scared of what could happen if they did. I tried to change their minds but they were pretty shook up about it. From my investigations of this sighting I feel that a full investigation is nesessary and that we might have more activity in the near future if you need to get more info contact me at. - - - - - - -
Last seen Object: Straight above my head
Altitude of Object: 200 -250 ft
Distance of Object: Object came within 500 feet
Estimated Size of Object: the size of a small car
Speed of object: 3000 - more mph
Object solid ?Yes
Noticed Object:Hover
Object was seen in vicinity of:Monument site Moving in front or behindMountain
Phenomenon visible for how long?: 4-5 min
Describe sound: - No sound
# of Witnesss: 4-5
Weather: Clear/Calm
Noticed:Power Failure Seen in vehicle? NO
Reported to: -UUFOH
Reported by: BEAU HACKWELL UUFOH INVESTIGATOR- Via UUFOH Online Report Form
NOTE: The rest of the people who saw it they were pretty shook up about it
Occurred :8-4-02 /8-5-02 /8-6-02 : Time of Sighting:10:00-11:00pm
Reported : 8/7/2002 1:01:15 PM
Location of sighting: Southbound I-15 Traveling Riverdale to Roy, UT
Shape : Triangle shape YES -More than one object
Description of object /s : I have seen wierd things in the sky for the last 3 days, but the most incredible one that I saw, was on tuesday the 6th of Aug. I know that I wasn't the only one on I-15 that had seen It because it was so big and close. I was a really, really bright light, so bright that it wasnt a plane. The color of the light was a yellowish-white. The object flew so fast from riverdale to roy, and thats where I was driving. Then all of a sudden the light turned into a bright RED. At that time it was BY the Roy exit, and their it was sooo close and had sat there hovering for about a minute, flashing three lights in a clockwise pattern. I kept driving and made my boyfriend watch. he had told me that It was flying back into the direction it came from. We pulled over after we got off the freeway. This light turned back into the bright light we seen before and hovered for another minute, and the started to move really slow. then the light dimmed, and disgused itself as an airplane but this time, you could see the shape which was a triangle shape, with a flashing white light in the front, and a red light on the left, and a blue light on the right. There seemed like there was at least 5 of them, acting the same way, two nights in a row. all at the same time, there seemed like so much air trafic, but 11:30 their was no sign of any plane.
Details: all that i noticed was the way that it would move so fast and then stop and go its slowest
Direction of Object: Toward the salt lake, and by the wasatch front, over going toward willard bay.
Altitude of Object: at least 700 ft
Distance of Object: right above my head not even a mile away the whole hour
Estimated Size of Object: too small for a commercial airplane
Speed of object:0 - 50 mph
Object solid ?YES
Noticed Object:Change color
Describe sound: - it was a very quiet humming, different from an airplane
# of Witnesss: 3
Weather: Clear/Calm
Object was seen in vicinity ofRadio or Television tower Seen in vehicle?YES
Reported to: told disbatch, but no written report, just want to know if any one seen the same thing that i have been seeing -UUFOH
Reported by: Erica Valle - Via UUFOH Online Report Form
Comments: I would like to be contacted by an investigator NOTE: Left contact info
Occurred :8-23-02 : Time of Sighting:8:33 pm to 9:15pm
Reported : 8/24/2002 10:00 PM
Location of sighting: Emigration Canyon, Utah -SE sky about 5 miles south east of residence
Shape : Light YES -at one time More than one object
Description of object /s : Bright while ball of light, like a star but during the daylight. Moved downward in the sky, then stopped. hovered for about 30 min,(enough time to get camera out and set up, etc.) Slowly started moving downward again, then East. This continued for two min. then another appeared from nowhere, circled the other object, then dissapeared. Object continued to hover for 8 more min. then sped off at high speed going east.
Details: I was in my driveway taking in groceries when I noticed a light coming down in the
sky. I watched it for about a couple min. and it stopped, I ran inside and grabed my camera
and tripod, and quickly set it up. I took 4 pictures of it with a 500mm lens until it speeded off.
Direction of Object: Last seen going east
Altitude of Object: Very high in altitude. maybe 1 mile?
Distance of Object: About 5 miles.
Estimated Size of Object: at arms length , the size of a match head
Speed of object: when it sped off 250 - 500 mph
Object solid ?YES
Noticed Object:Hover, and make quick acceleration
Phenomenon visible for how long?: approximately 40 min
Describe sound: - No sound
# of Witnesss: 1
Weather: Somewhat Cloudy/Calm
Photographic Evidence? YES - Taken with a Tripod mounted Canon Elan II, 500mm lens at f~5.6
Reported to: -UUFOH
Reported by: Dave Rosenfeld- from: SLC Via UUFOH Online Report Form
A group of residents in eastern Salt Lake City saw what they believed to be a UFO flying over the Wasatch Mountains on Thursday. Salt Lake City police received multiple calls, as did The Salt Lake City Tribune, about the silver oblong craft that floated on the horizon. after a brief investigation, police identified the object as a remote controled blimp.
UUFOH: Feels this is a cover story for the U of U sighting that occured on 7/01/02
Location of sighting: Kanab, Utah -SE sky about 10 miles south of residence
Shape : Light YES -More than one object
Description of object /s : Bright while ball of light, like a full moon. Moved downward into a ball of bright red light, another full moon.
Details: I was outside in my driveway turning water on for my plants, talking on the phone looking north at my house when a bright white light lit up my rock driveway where I was standing. I turned to see if a car was coming up the road, there was no sound, when I saw a bright white ball of light in the sky, almost eye level for me. It was moving towards the ground a short distance then turning into a bright ball of red light. At that point it stopped and disappeared. There was not trail like a meteor would leave. The hair on my body was standing up like a surge of energy. My solar lights never came on which are motion sensitive. The light did not shine on the side of the house.
Direction of Object: SE sky moving towards the ground, easterly stopping midair
Altitude of Object: That of a small plane. Not good judging distance or altitude.
Distance of Object: About 10 miles.
Estimated Size of Object: Small full moon
Speed of object: 50 - 250 mph
Object solid ?YES
Noticed Object:Change color
Phenomenon visible for how long?: approximately 30 seconds
Describe sound: - No sound
# of Witnesss: 1
Weather: Clear/Calm
Any Animal disturbance?: No, my dog was still in the car. We had just come home from the movies.
Seen in vehicle? NO
Suffered Decription of effects:When I came into the house I felt out of my body. The next 2 days I felt kind of sick, upset stomach. I never get sick.
Reported to: -UUFOH
Reported by: Jo Anne Rando-Moon- from: Kanab Via UUFOH Online Report Form
Occurred : 6/11/2002 00:20 (Entered as : 6/11/02 00:20)
Reported : 6/11/2002 1:43:04 AM
Posted : 6/12/2002
Location : Kaysville, UT
Shape : Other
Glowing Manta-ray Shaped Object Flies Over Kaysville on a Southwardly Course Parallel to Wasatch Mountains
Just after midnight on a clear cloudless night, as I faced east towards the Wasatch Mountains, a dimly glowing manta ray-shaped (or perhaps sideways football-shaped, as it was a bilaterally symmetrical, twin-lobed shape--like two apple seeds glued together with the points facing out) object moved across the sky towards the south. The object had no discernable light source on its surface, and the glow may have been the reflection of city lights. Its air speed was faster than any airplane that I've ever seen to traverse that same distance.
From my vantage-point, as I sat on the ground between two trees, the object flew in a straight line south. It appeared to be the same size as a pea held at arms-length. Its altitude seemed to be slightly higher than the peaks above Kaysville. This was a quiet evening with little wind, and the object made no noticeable sound. Fifteen minutes later, a passenger jet flew by the same area and jet engines were distinctly heard, even though the jet appeared to be farther away from me than the unknown object had been.
Occurred : 5/15/2002 04:25 (Entered as : 05/15/02 04:25)
Reported : 5/15/2002 4:25:39 AM 04:25
Posted : 6/12/2002
Location : Sandy, UT
Shape : Light
Three non-blinking stars moving across the sky from south to north in eastern part of sky at 4:25 a.m.
I observed a "star" moving across the sky from south to north. It did not seem to be twinkling and moved in a steady path and speed. It faded out when in got to the Little Dipper (from my perspective). I looked back to where it had come from and saw two "stars" moving in generally the same direction. They were not moving parallel to each other, more in a slight "v", so I was unable to watch them both. I focussed on the brigher one until it disappeared close to the Little Dipper. I glanced across the sky but could not see the third one. I waited for about ten more minutes looking south but no more moving stars. I would not have thought that much about a moving star but three really caught my attention.
((NUFORC Note: Witness may have witnessed a cluster of satellites, perhaps the three which are seen to fly in formation over several weeks, and which are thought possibly to be part of the U. S. Navy N.O.S.S. satellite system. PD))
Location of sighting: Southbound I-15 Near Farmington, UT
Location : Farmington, UT
Shape : Light
Description of object /s : One object, Pale Blue/Green light extremely brilliant hovered over Farmington Area South of Lagoon, it would fade down to a pinpoint, go completely out then return to its former brilliance. The object was observed for about 10 min. then I left the area. I am an experinced observer, and this was a true unknown. I was tired with a car full of sleeping, ornery kids, with over a 120 miles left before bed, or I would have chased this object.
Direction of Object: no movement observed
Altitude of Object: 2000 AGL
Distance of Object: 1 Mile
Estimated Size of Object: Unknown
Speed of object:0 - 50 mph
Object solid ?YES
# of Witnesss: 3
Weather: Clear/Calm
Reported by: Mark Woody UUFOH Via UUFOH Online Report Form
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Utah UFO Hunters - FOLLOW UP - on UFO report given 9/27/02 3:27pm
Contacted witness on Sunday Sept 29 2002 via phone -regarding inconsistenties in original report
<Follow up>
Location: Witnesses were looking north from 3600 w and near 21st south. Objects were straight north from witnesses location.
Time frame: They were driving for 5-10 minutes seeing the formation, before stopping their car. They got out of their car next to a field and witnessed the objects for another 45- 50 minutes, before leaving. The object were still visable when they left.
Note: They noticed one other person / car was stopped on the side of the road looking at the objects.
Other Details: The Main formation was hovering, at a few hundred feet. lights were all orange.
One object was bigger than the others. middle object.
Number of Objects: 5 to 6 objects seen- then there were three. two objects seen leaving formation. thats when they witnessed the high speed manuvers
> one object shot off - Object that left formation went straight up then south over our heads. when the one shot over it was had smaller blue lights, along with the orange color that made up the whole color. and had a Triangle shape.
Speed : It was definately alot faster than a aircraft.
Note: witness does not have a great sense of speed being that it was at night.
>Another object went west then east. making a 160 degree turn instantly.
Size: At arms lenght what size were these objects? "Two fingers in size or bigger."
Witnesses seen other aircraft in vicinity. witnesses looked at other aircraft (planes) and said "that is an airplane and thats not an airplane
There were No clouds. (as originally stated)
Sound: compared to a really strong wind like it disturbed the air. Not like a jet or plane.
NoticedPower Failure? (as originally stated) NO>
Willing to do investigation tool? yes Witness is willing to take us to location. and use our tool to measure flight paths. and futher follow up. Will update
Occurred : 7/11/2002 01:00 (Entered as : 07/11/02 01:00)
Reported : 7/11/2002 12:26:21 AM 00:26
Location : Sandy, UT
Shape : Light
I saw an unusual falling star.
I saw what could have been a falling star but it didn't "act" like any falling star I have seen before. It appeared like any falling star but there was no streaking, the light was more substantial (like an unblinking airplane light) and though it was moving fast it was not as fast and fleeting as falling stars seem to be. Also, it didn't vanish in the middle of the sky. Instead, the light stayed consistant and seemed to "fall" behind the Wasatch Mountains in the east. I would be interested in knowing if anyone else saw this and if it was a meteor or whatever.
Occurred : 7/30/2002 22:08 (Entered as : 07/30/02 22:08)
Reported : 8/1/2002 9:51:59 PM 21:51
Location : Magna, UT
Shape : Circle
Strange Bright Light over Oquirrh Mountains of Salt Lake City
I was looking out my kitchen window to the west when I saw a very big light over the mountains (Oquirrh Mountains). I knew that it was not anything that was usually there. I watched it for about 5 minutes and it did not move. I went inside and got my binoculars and looked at it for a minute, but could not distinguish anything but a very, very bright light. I could observe airplanes and they usually blink. This was not like an airplane. I went inside to call my sister and as I was speaking, the brilliant light slowly, very slowly, went behind the mountain. I would not have reported this if not for the fact that my husband, who works at the airport, saw something very strange in the sky tonight. We are about 20 miles away and I could not see what he was looking at. He said it was cigar shaped and changed. I will have him add his report later.
